What I think that you and others are not given credit is that most upstream maintainers have very long lists of things to do. The NFS team is swamped doing support for pNFS (version 4.1) and has been going through massive change for example. When you have a very invasive feature that requires the entire world to change and brings no domain specific advantages to users of impacted subsystems, you should not be surprised that you see resistance (what new capability does NFS get from the systemd changes for example!). That is where you need to use charm and persuasion to move things along :) Ric -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel