On 06/14/2011 11:43 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: >> For what's left, eg ARM9+ that you can run normal Linux and Fedora on, >> ipv6 is going to be workable if the memory allows. Looking a year or >> two ahead, where "Embedded" will extend to Cortex A15 quad core, and >> IPv6 will presumably have gained traction, the tradeoffs involved with >> cutdown environments like busybox / dropbear and IPv4-only are going to >> start being harder to accept. > > I talk to a lot of embedded people. Tiny machines are not going to > disappear anytime soon - they just go into smaller and smaller gadgets. Me too... I think maybe considerations valid at the low-end devices you know very well are blinding you a bit to how applicable those considerations are, eg --> > For example, there are still a noticeable segment of NOMMU CPUs, meaning > if you really target embedded, you need to learn how to live with vfork > only. ... NOMMU and ARM7 that can't run Fedora are to discussions about architecture of Fedora. > You can't just handwave embedded away by assuming that "embedded will > get big enough for me to not really care about optimizing for size". My point was that pressure against bloat is good. But when I look at compromises made in stuff commonly used in ARM7 / cross world, I wouldn't want to see that happening in Fedora in the name of a debloating jihad that simply doesn't matter on most of the platforms it targets. Still, I hope this thread at least reminded people that it doesn't hurt to have a modest memory footprint ^^ -Andy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
