Am 13.06.2011 00:00, schrieb Mike Chambers: > On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 23:23 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> I DO NOT NEED SYSTEMD ON 20 SERVERS HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE STARTING >> FAST ENOUGH AND I NEED NO MAGIC WHICH THINKS KNOWS WHAT TO START >> IN WHICH ORDER SINCE I KNOW WHAT IS RUNNING ON MY SYSTEMS > > Why run Fedora itself on 20 servers? Because it works perfectly with one version behind > Those are mission capable and in a production environment? yes and this time on F14 but the clock goes fast around and since F14 is not supporting the hardware of my new work station (Intel graphics / Sandy Brdige) i have to play around with F15 > A slower and more stable platform that > is free might be better. Running Fedora since F7 in production environments without any downtime bcause the OS or any upgrade-problems showing that i know what i do > That's beside the point, why are you not testing upgrades and working > out the issues yourself before even trying, in a test environment? what do you believe what i am doing here? the test says " i do not want this crap in this early devel-state on my servers end of the year" nobody knows what "systemd" mislikes on /mnt/storage because if i uncomment it the system starts without any issue and manually mounting works on the other hand this crap tells me the follwoing without bringing httpd up [root@testserver:~]$ service httpd start Starting httpd (via systemctl): [ OK ] [Sun Jun 12 23:30:40 2011] [error] (2)No such file or directory: could not create /var/run/httpd/httpd.pid [Sun Jun 12 23:30:40 2011] [error] httpd: could not log pid to file /var/run/httpd/httpd.pid well this is the F14 build of Apache but shows me that i will go to hell if the output of "service start" is no longer trustable as years before > Actually, if they need no magic and are fast enough, why upgrade at all > right now and wait until everything is worked out? because i do not update the servers, i try to bring up my test/build-environemt to get my workstation supported which relys on the same packages as production-servers (ffmpeg, newer httpd-versions, newer php-versions) > Not telling you what to do, just bringing up different > points/suggestions i knowing my job very well and because this is so i have to upgrade to F15 a longer time before the servers and i see NO SINGLE REASON for systemd on a server at all!
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