On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Am 12.06.2011 23:35, schrieb Josh Boyer: >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> PLEASE give us a option for systems upgraded with yum >>> NOT USING "systemd" and force "upstart" as before >>> >>> * the system is running since years >>> * every dist-upgrade via yum was no problem >>> * now see screenshot >>> * WTF is there to relabel if started with "selinux=0"-kernel-param >>> >>> WHY IN THE WORLD ARE USERS FORCED TO USE SYSTEMD ONLY BECAUSE >>> THEY UPGRAD TO F15? DO THIS FOR NEW INSTALLATIONS BUT NEVER >>> ON UPDATES >>> >>> I DO NOT NEED SYSTEMD ON 20 SERVERS HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE STARTING >>> FAST ENOUGH AND I NEED NO MAGIC WHICH THINKS KNOWS WHAT TO START >>> IN WHICH ORDER SINCE I KNOW WHAT IS RUNNING ON MY SYSTEMS >> >> BULL***, I CAN'T HEAR YOU! SOUND OFF LIKE YOU GOT A PAIR! > > there is nothing bullshit Oh, you were trying to have a conversation about something? Sorry, with all the shouting I thought we were doing impromptu Gunnery Sergeant Hartman quotes from Full Metal Jacket. > why are users of running systems are forced to change their > init-system to "systemd"? "upstart" is in the repos but ignored I actually don't know the answer to this question other than "Fedora switched to systemd". > WTF every three years a new pig is forced to run through the city > and if any subsystem is runnign well and debugged some idiot > comes out of his hole and try replace and force everybody > to use it Amazing what one motivated maintainer and their package can accomplish while everyone else is shouting. josh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel