thats exactly what vmware needs to comprehend. you dont need to tell me that ;-) On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:55:53 +0200 Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > sorry to say but you have no idea what about i am speaking > snapshots are not taken "through that virtualized ethernet device" > > the guest is freezed for a short time to take a consistent > state of his drives which are copied on the host, the copy > has NOTHING to to with the ethernet device in the guest > > Am 05.06.2011 20:50, schrieb Lars Schotte: > > so you have to somehow convince vmware not to take snapshots through > > that virtualized ethernet devices. maybe an extra ethernet device > > would help. the first one left for that snapshots fiction and > > second for networking. > > > > On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:34:49 +0200 > > Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Am 05.06.2011 16:55, schrieb Lars Schotte: > >>> i definitely wouldnt come to that idea to monitor guests on guests > >>> w/ vnstat because even if it had worked perfectly, its still just > >>> a fictional ethernet device. > >> > >> what is there fictional? > >> > >> it is a ethernet-device with all features of a ethernet-device > >> ond the guest does know nothing about virtualization > >> > >>> maybe a vmware monitoring software would be > >>> more precise or an alternative would be to bind each to a virtual > >>> network card and do the monitoring on the host measuring only the > >>> output data and then routing all this devices out, thereby using > >>> the host as a router, which is of course a more complicated setup > >>> and i am not even sure if it would work, but thats the way i > >>> would try to build it up. > >> > >> jesus for what reason? > >> > >> the host is not a router, the host is a virtual switch > >> and yes you have monitoring on the vCenter-Server but not > >> in a console like output and not with exactly numbers > >> > >> this are two different worlds and i see no reason why > >> vnstat would not work on the guest because it does > >> > >> only while snapshots are taken / removed there are some > >> short untrue peaks which would be easaliy could filtered > >> in the guest-software only by their hughe numbers which are > >> clearly impossible and the problem is that this does not > >> happen and so if some measuring says "20 GB in two seconds" > >> all averages are destroyed > >> > >>> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:20:16 +0200 > >>> Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>>> yes! > >>>> > >>>> works perfectly, only after dealing with snapshots there are > >>>> this horrible peaks on 64bit guests > >>>> > >>>> Am 05.06.2011 16:18, schrieb Lars Schotte: > >>>>> w8, so you are saying that you run vnstat on the guests? > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:16:44 +0200 > >>>>> Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am 05.06.2011 16:12, schrieb Lars Schotte: > >>>>>>> is ifconfig showing this huge numberg at that time as well? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> not currently, but i have seen such outputs in "ifconfig" too > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> do you have a 64bit OS or 32bit? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> seems only affect x86_64 guests > >>>>>> good input - the voip-machine is the only 32bit and > >>>>>> does not show this > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> did you try to report it to vmware as well? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> they will anser "fedora is not official supported and > >>>>>> open-vm-tools vom rpmfusion too" on ESXi :-( > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:06:48 +0200 > >>>>>>> Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> has anybody an idea for which package i should file a > >>>>>>>> bugreport for this? i guess "vnstat" is only the postman > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> every night from friday to saturday from our > >>>>>>>> fedora-vmware-guests is made a snapshot by "VMware Data > >>>>>>>> Recovery" to take a consistent backup and while deleting the > >>>>>>>> snapshot something triggers horrible wrong values to "vnstat" > >>>>>>>> which makes monthly summary useless > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> see below :-( > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> eth0 / daily > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> day rx | tx | total | > >>>>>>>> avg. rate > >>>>>>>> ------------------------+-------------+-------------+--------------- > >>>>>>>> 05/07/11 16777216.00 TiB | 5.56 GiB | 16777216.00 TiB | > >>>>>>>> 1668.00 Tbit/s 05/08/11 855.27 MiB | 4.24 GiB | 5.07 > >>>>>>>> GiB | 492.63 kbit/s 05/09/11 2.35 GiB | 72.14 GiB | > >>>>>>>> 74.49 GiB | 7.23 Mbit/s 05/10/11 1.47 GiB | 11.41 GiB > >>>>>>>> | 12.88 GiB | 1.25 Mbit/s 05/11/11 1.11 GiB | 6.19 > >>>>>>>> GiB | 7.30 GiB | 708.76 kbit/s 05/12/11 1.17 GiB | > >>>>>>>> 5.82 GiB | 6.99 GiB | 678.38 kbit/s 05/13/11 1.12 GiB > >>>>>>>> | 6.50 GiB | 7.62 GiB | 739.88 kbit/s 05/14/11 > >>>>>>>> 33554432.00 TiB | 4.10 GiB | 33554432.00 TiB | 3336.00 Tbit/s > >>>>>>>> 05/15/11 778.85 MiB | 4.45 GiB | 5.21 GiB | 505.87 > >>>>>>>> kbit/s 05/16/11 1.30 GiB | 7.37 GiB | 8.67 GiB | 842.06 > >>>>>>>> kbit/s 05/17/11 1.38 GiB | 8.18 GiB | 9.56 GiB | > >>>>>>>> 928.20 kbit/s 05/18/11 1.21 GiB | 6.83 GiB | 8.04 > >>>>>>>> GiB | 780.32 kbit/s 05/19/11 1.03 GiB | 5.68 GiB | > >>>>>>>> 6.72 GiB | 652.10 kbit/s 05/20/11 1.11 GiB | 5.18 > >>>>>>>> GiB | 6.29 GiB | 610.67 kbit/s 05/21/11 16777216.00 TiB > >>>>>>>> | 3.97 GiB | 16777216.00 TiB | 1668.00 Tbit/s 05/22/11 > >>>>>>>> 902.15 MiB | 6.74 GiB | 7.62 GiB | 739.58 kbit/s > >>>>>>>> 05/23/11 1.28 GiB | 16.56 GiB | 17.84 GiB | 1.73 > >>>>>>>> Mbit/s 05/24/11 1.60 GiB | 11.42 GiB | 13.02 GiB > >>>>>>>> | 1.26 Mbit/s 05/25/11 1.47 GiB | 6.65 GiB | 8.12 > >>>>>>>> GiB | 788.78 kbit/s 05/26/11 1.23 GiB | 7.40 GiB | > >>>>>>>> 8.64 GiB | 838.46 kbit/s 05/27/11 1.43 GiB | 6.75 > >>>>>>>> GiB | 8.19 GiB | 794.70 kbit/s 05/28/11 33554432.00 TiB > >>>>>>>> | 5.44 GiB | 33554432.00 TiB | 3336.00 Tbit/s 05/29/11 > >>>>>>>> 855.65 MiB | 4.89 GiB | 5.72 GiB | 555.47 kbit/s > >>>>>>>> 05/30/11 1.43 GiB | 9.20 GiB | 10.62 GiB | 1.03 > >>>>>>>> Mbit/s 05/31/11 1.77 GiB | 9.52 GiB | 11.29 GiB | > >>>>>>>> 1.10 Mbit/s 06/01/11 1.51 GiB | 9.43 GiB | 10.94 GiB > >>>>>>>> | 1.06 Mbit/s 06/02/11 906.48 MiB | 5.90 GiB | 6.79 > >>>>>>>> GiB | 658.85 kbit/s 06/03/11 2.36 GiB | 9.40 GiB | > >>>>>>>> 11.77 GiB | 1.14 Mbit/s 06/04/11 16777216.00 TiB | > >>>>>>>> 5.15 GiB | 16777216.00 TiB | 1668.00 Tbit/s 06/05/11 > >>>>>>>> 585.88 MiB | 2.30 GiB | 2.87 GiB | 417.64 kbit/s > >>>>>>>> ------------------------+-------------+-------------+--------------- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> estimated 877 MiB | 3.44 GiB | 4.30 GiB | > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > -- Lars Schotte @ Hana (F14)
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