Re: vnstat / network wrong peaks while delete snapshot

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sorry to say but you have no idea what about i am speaking
snapshots are not taken "through that virtualized ethernet device"

the guest is freezed for a short time to take a consistent
state of his drives which are copied on the host, the copy
has NOTHING to to with the ethernet device in the guest

Am 05.06.2011 20:50, schrieb Lars Schotte:
> so you have to somehow convince vmware not to take snapshots through
> that virtualized ethernet devices. maybe an extra ethernet device would
> help. the first one left for that snapshots fiction and second for
> networking.
> 
> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:34:49 +0200
> Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Am 05.06.2011 16:55, schrieb Lars Schotte:
>>> i definitely wouldnt come to that idea to monitor guests on guests
>>> w/ vnstat because even if it had worked perfectly, its still just a
>>> fictional ethernet device. 
>>
>> what is there fictional?
>>
>> it is a ethernet-device with all features of a ethernet-device
>> ond the guest does know nothing about virtualization
>>
>>> maybe a vmware monitoring software would be
>>> more precise or an alternative would be to bind each to a virtual
>>> network card and do the monitoring on the host measuring only the
>>> output data and then routing all this devices out, thereby using the
>>> host as a router, which is of course a more complicated setup and i
>>> am not even sure if it would work, but thats the way i would try to
>>> build it up.
>>
>> jesus for what reason?
>>
>> the host is not a router, the host is a virtual switch
>> and yes you have monitoring on the vCenter-Server but not
>> in a console like output and not with exactly numbers
>>
>> this are two different worlds and i see no reason why
>> vnstat would not work on the guest because it does
>>
>> only while snapshots are taken / removed there are some
>> short untrue peaks which would be easaliy could filtered
>> in the guest-software only by their hughe numbers which are
>> clearly impossible and the problem is that this does not
>> happen and so if some measuring says "20 GB in two seconds"
>> all averages are destroyed
>>
>>> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:20:16 +0200
>>> Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> yes!
>>>>
>>>> works perfectly, only after dealing with snapshots there are
>>>> this horrible peaks on 64bit guests
>>>>
>>>> Am 05.06.2011 16:18, schrieb Lars Schotte:
>>>>> w8, so you are saying that you run vnstat on the guests?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:16:44 +0200
>>>>> Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 05.06.2011 16:12, schrieb Lars Schotte:
>>>>>>> is ifconfig showing this huge numberg at that time as well? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not currently, but i have seen such outputs in "ifconfig" too
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> do you have a 64bit OS or 32bit? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> seems only affect x86_64 guests
>>>>>> good input - the voip-machine is the only 32bit and
>>>>>> does not show this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> did you try to report it to vmware as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> they will anser "fedora is not official supported and
>>>>>> open-vm-tools vom rpmfusion too" on ESXi :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:06:48 +0200
>>>>>>> Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> has anybody an idea for which package i should file a bugreport
>>>>>>>> for this? i guess "vnstat" is only the postman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> every night from friday to saturday from our
>>>>>>>> fedora-vmware-guests is made a snapshot by "VMware Data
>>>>>>>> Recovery" to take a consistent backup and while deleting the
>>>>>>>> snapshot something triggers horrible wrong values to "vnstat"
>>>>>>>> which makes monthly summary useless
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> see below :-(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  eth0  /  daily
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>          day         rx      |     tx      |    total    |
>>>>>>>> avg. rate
>>>>>>>> ------------------------+-------------+-------------+---------------
>>>>>>>> 05/07/11   16777216.00 TiB |    5.56 GiB | 16777216.00 TiB |
>>>>>>>> 1668.00 Tbit/s 05/08/11    855.27 MiB |    4.24 GiB |    5.07
>>>>>>>> GiB | 492.63 kbit/s 05/09/11      2.35 GiB |   72.14 GiB |
>>>>>>>> 74.49 GiB | 7.23 Mbit/s 05/10/11      1.47 GiB |   11.41 GiB
>>>>>>>> |   12.88 GiB | 1.25 Mbit/s 05/11/11      1.11 GiB |    6.19
>>>>>>>> GiB |    7.30 GiB | 708.76 kbit/s 05/12/11      1.17 GiB |
>>>>>>>> 5.82 GiB | 6.99 GiB | 678.38 kbit/s 05/13/11      1.12 GiB
>>>>>>>> |    6.50 GiB |    7.62 GiB | 739.88 kbit/s 05/14/11
>>>>>>>> 33554432.00 TiB | 4.10 GiB | 33554432.00 TiB | 3336.00 Tbit/s
>>>>>>>> 05/15/11    778.85 MiB |    4.45 GiB |    5.21 GiB |  505.87
>>>>>>>> kbit/s 05/16/11 1.30 GiB | 7.37 GiB |    8.67 GiB |  842.06
>>>>>>>> kbit/s 05/17/11 1.38 GiB |    8.18 GiB |    9.56 GiB |  928.20
>>>>>>>> kbit/s 05/18/11      1.21 GiB |    6.83 GiB |    8.04 GiB |
>>>>>>>> 780.32 kbit/s 05/19/11 1.03 GiB |    5.68 GiB |    6.72 GiB |
>>>>>>>> 652.10 kbit/s 05/20/11      1.11 GiB |    5.18 GiB |    6.29
>>>>>>>> GiB | 610.67 kbit/s 05/21/11   16777216.00 TiB |    3.97 GiB |
>>>>>>>> 16777216.00 TiB | 1668.00 Tbit/s 05/22/11    902.15 MiB |
>>>>>>>> 6.74 GiB |    7.62 GiB |  739.58 kbit/s 05/23/11      1.28 GiB
>>>>>>>> |   16.56 GiB | 17.84 GiB |    1.73 Mbit/s 05/24/11      1.60
>>>>>>>> GiB |   11.42 GiB |   13.02 GiB |    1.26 Mbit/s 05/25/11
>>>>>>>> 1.47 GiB |    6.65 GiB |    8.12 GiB |  788.78 kbit/s
>>>>>>>> 05/26/11      1.23 GiB | 7.40 GiB |    8.64 GiB |  838.46
>>>>>>>> kbit/s 05/27/11      1.43 GiB |    6.75 GiB |    8.19 GiB |
>>>>>>>> 794.70 kbit/s 05/28/11 33554432.00 TiB |    5.44 GiB |
>>>>>>>> 33554432.00 TiB | 3336.00 Tbit/s 05/29/11    855.65 MiB | 4.89
>>>>>>>> GiB |    5.72 GiB |  555.47 kbit/s 05/30/11      1.43 GiB |
>>>>>>>> 9.20 GiB |   10.62 GiB |    1.03 Mbit/s 05/31/11      1.77 GiB
>>>>>>>> | 9.52 GiB |   11.29 GiB |    1.10 Mbit/s 06/01/11      1.51
>>>>>>>> GiB | 9.43 GiB |   10.94 GiB |    1.06 Mbit/s 06/02/11
>>>>>>>> 906.48 MiB | 5.90 GiB |    6.79 GiB |  658.85 kbit/s
>>>>>>>> 06/03/11      2.36 GiB | 9.40 GiB |   11.77 GiB |    1.14
>>>>>>>> Mbit/s 06/04/11   16777216.00 TiB |    5.15 GiB | 16777216.00
>>>>>>>> TiB | 1668.00 Tbit/s 06/05/11    585.88 MiB | 2.30 GiB |
>>>>>>>> 2.87 GiB |  417.64 kbit/s
>>>>>>>> ------------------------+-------------+-------------+---------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      estimated       877 MiB |    3.44 GiB |    4.30 GiB |
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 

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