It seems to me that as a general observation, package sizes are either stable or coming down in size. And even the total size of the Fedora Live CD has dropped significantly. My example: I installed Fedora 15 a couple of days ago. After fully updating, I couldn't help but notice the amount of updates and packages that were downloaded and installed for a relatively small total download. After updating to the latest packages, I proceeded to install Java and Flash plugins. Flash is a different situation so I won't go into that in this post. That discussion is for another day. But whilst installing the Java web-browser plugin, I observed that it's not its dependancies that suck up the size but rather the physical java packages themselves. And I just don't understand what makes Java packages so big and bulky? I mean, I can install The GIMP (a full image editing package) in under 10MB. Perhaps someone can shed some light on this and perhaps more effort put into bringing down the size of java packages, if possible? Regards Chris Jones ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel