On Tue, 10.05.11 01:04, Miloslav TrmaÄ (mitr@xxxxxxxx) wrote: > > ... rereading the thread, the thing I have missed is that we don't > want to block startup in configurations where the server binds to > 127.0.0.1 because the system might never come online. So there appears > to be no universally correct default for programs with flexible bind > addresses :( > Mirek Note that the loopback device is actually configured as one of the first things in systemd, from within PID 1. On a systemd system 127.0.0.1 and ::1 are always bindable, the network scripts or NetworkManager do not need to set them up manually anymore. That basically means that on a systemd system a service can always bind to 0.0.0.0, ::, 127.0.0.1, ::1. Only if it needs a different IP address it can resort to IP_FREEBIND, or even better netlink notifications. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel