On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 05:02:43PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 30.03.11 13:54, Lennart Poettering (mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > With this upload Fedora and Suse have already adopted /run now. Debian > > folks will suggest this for their coming release. Ubuntu has agreed with > > introducing /run as well. > > I guess I need to clarify this. Ubuntu actually hasn't agreed on > anything. > > Scott Remnant, the maintainer of Upstart wants /run. Scott does not work > for Canonical anymore, but he's still involved Ubuntu, and Ubuntu uses > Upstart where /run needs to be created. > > So, I'd like to corect my self: "Ubuntu has agreed" to "To me it appears > that they will do it". If you need somebody who works on Ubuntu for Canonical to support this, I'm happy to be such a person. Supporting /var/run reliably in early boot has long been an irritant and requires at least one hack in our installer, and while /dev/.initramfs is functional it isn't exactly pretty. Certainly, we should be conservative when introducing new top-level directories, but not to the point of obstinacy in the face of genuine problems. /run makes sense, it already has quite widespread agreement, it feels Unixy, and migration will be straightforward with the aid of a few symlinks. I should probably not try to cram this into Ubuntu 11.04 now, but I'm happy to make this happen in Ubuntu 11.10. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [cjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx] -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel