On 03/30/2011 02:42 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On 03/30/2011 01:11 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 03/30/2011 02:10 PM, MichaÅ Piotrowski wrote: >>> 2011/3/30 Ralf Corsepius<rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx>: >>>> On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>>>> Heya, >>>>> >>>>> I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a >>>>> directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later >>>>> stumble over it, so here's an explanation what this is and why this is. >>>>> >>>>> It's a fairly minor technical change, >>>> It's a massive FHS violation >>> FHS has 7 years, must be updated. >>> >>>> => release blocker. >>> Flame! :D >> No, it's a no-go/no-way in most verbose form. >> > If strict FHS compliance was a release criteria it's hard to see how we'd have > made it to F15 in the first place. Well, the reasons why Fedora isn't FHS compliant to me are obvious. > I also don't think you can really justify the "massive" qualifier in your > assertion. The actual text of the (7 year old) FHS has this to say: 7 year old doesn't mean obsolete and doesn't mean to adopt any crack ridden idea somebody comes up with. Any ordinary Fedora contributor with a similar proposal would have been "sent to hell". > I find it interesting that you consider a breach of the "root directory > pollution rule" sufficiently serious to be a release blocker Correct. Apart of this, it's waaaaaaaay too late in the release process to implement this change for F15, IMNSHO. > and yet you have > apparently remained silent as all the abuses of the /dev directory that Lennart > pointed out were merged in previous releases. I have repeatedly spoken up - e.g. wrt. cgroup. > Why is that those FHS violations are OK but adding a directory to / (in an > obvious effort to address one of the shortcomings of the existing standard) is > the end of the world as we know it? > > No standard is or even should be carved in stone for all eternity. Right, but devs should ignore it or feel tempted to rape such a standard. Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
