I'm planning to orphan the hal and hal-info packages in F15 and and retire them in rawhide. HAL has been dead upstream for 3 years now, and all development has moved into udev, and the u* daemons like upower, udisks and urfkill. The original maintainer and most of the original team want HAL dead. The things that depend on HAL in F15 seem to be: beldi-0:0.9.25-3.fc15.x86_64 blueman-0:1.21-7.fc15.x86_64 exaile-0:0.3.2.1-1.fc15.noarch gnome-device-manager-libs-0:0.2-6.fc15.i686 libconcord-0:0.23-2.fc15.i686 lxsession-0:0.4.5-2.fc15.x86_64 matahari-0:0.4.0-0.1.8003b6c.git.fc15.1.x86_64 nut-0:2.6.0-3.fc15.x86_64 ovirt-server-installer-0:0.100-6.fc15.noarch razertool-0:0.0.7-8.fc15.x86_64 xfce4-cddrive-plugin-0:0.0.1-4.fc15.x86_64 If somebody wants to maintain HAL in F15 be my guest, but be aware it's a *huge* daemon doing lots of complex things as the root user. It's probably quite a large undertaking. There are 28 open bugs, and most of them are either architectural design problems, feature requests or invalid: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=hal&product=Fedora I will continue to maintain HAL in Fedora 13 and 14, and of course in RHEL 4, 5 and 6. Comments welcome, Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel