On 2/6/2011 10:45 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 20:18:40 -0500, > David <dgboles@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> My concern is for those that can not deal with this 'forced' change. >> Your product is free. one can not sell a product that is broken. But you >> also can not give a way something that people can not use. > > The plan has always been that you get a fallback to metacity and gnome-panel > if you don't have gnome-shell or do not have good enough 3d support. It just > seemed like things took a bit longer than hoped. People worked hard to > try to get things ready for the test day. Test day. Sure i will accept that 'rest day ' and release day' are good goals. I switched to XFCE two months, maybe longer ago, whenever it was that this Gnome 3 or gnome-shell 'thing' first appeared in Rawhide. Why? Becasue it broke my desktop. Actually I am not exactly sure why but I know that I need *real* Nvidia drivers for my reasonably modern GeForce 5800 GTX card to work properly. The Linux drivers do not work as they should. For me. And something about the version of Xorg and this, or a combination of theses, makes major problems for me. Broke my desktop and the general Gnome 'expected to work things'. No one else has these problems? Maybe. More than likely 'no one else' *yet*! What for now? After the release? Best wishes. Do as you wish of course. I would suggest that you offer this as a option. A 'try this' and if it works *great* but if it blows up get easily back this way. I appreecaite all of the work that you people do. Really. But there are times that I disagree with the marketing paths you take. The 'fallback' IMO should not be that but be a 'try this' with the 'fallback' defaulted if a failure happens. -- David -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel