Re: Adding packages to buildroot directly from updates-testing

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On 12/17/2010 11:22 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:21:27 +0100, Ralf wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/2010 03:35 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd like to propose a small(ish) change to how updates to Fx and Fx-1 work.
>>>
>>> Currently we have to wait until package gets to stable for it to appear
>>> in buildroot. IMO this goes against the whole "testing" part of
>>> updates-testing. I'd like for packages to appear in buildroot as soon as
>>> they are in updates-testing. Reasoning:
>>>
>>>    * Building deps is part of testing. If anything fails ->   package
>>>      should be withdrawn from testing and not pushed.
>>>
>>> There are a few corner-cases I could think of where this approach could
>>> cause a bit of headaches, but in those cases even current process
>>> wouldn't help us much IMO.
>>>
>>> Any opinions on this?
>>
>> +1, I had proposed somethings similar long time ago, but it was shot
>> down, then.
>
> -1 to test-updates entering the buildroot automatically. It would break
> the buildroot too often (think of ABI/API breaks and packaging mistakes)
> and reduce the predictability of builds. We would be building against
> untested packages, often unknowingly.

Well, ATM,

* we are building packages against the known-to-be-broken package whose 
replacements already are waiting in updates-testing.

* we are building packages against packages in updates, which are known 
to be replaced with the versions from updates-testing.

> +1 to some way of automating koji buildroot overrides (perhaps based
> on FAS group membership such as provenpackagers) in order to remove
> the releng bottleneck.

I am learning you are keen on more bureaucracy ;)

Ralf


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