On 12/17/2010 11:22 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:21:27 +0100, Ralf wrote: > >> On 12/16/2010 03:35 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'd like to propose a small(ish) change to how updates to Fx and Fx-1 work. >>> >>> Currently we have to wait until package gets to stable for it to appear >>> in buildroot. IMO this goes against the whole "testing" part of >>> updates-testing. I'd like for packages to appear in buildroot as soon as >>> they are in updates-testing. Reasoning: >>> >>> * Building deps is part of testing. If anything fails -> package >>> should be withdrawn from testing and not pushed. >>> >>> There are a few corner-cases I could think of where this approach could >>> cause a bit of headaches, but in those cases even current process >>> wouldn't help us much IMO. >>> >>> Any opinions on this? >> >> +1, I had proposed somethings similar long time ago, but it was shot >> down, then. > > -1 to test-updates entering the buildroot automatically. It would break > the buildroot too often (think of ABI/API breaks and packaging mistakes) > and reduce the predictability of builds. We would be building against > untested packages, often unknowingly. Well, ATM, * we are building packages against the known-to-be-broken package whose replacements already are waiting in updates-testing. * we are building packages against packages in updates, which are known to be replaced with the versions from updates-testing. > +1 to some way of automating koji buildroot overrides (perhaps based > on FAS group membership such as provenpackagers) in order to remove > the releng bottleneck. I am learning you are keen on more bureaucracy ;) Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel