On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 12:01:39PM +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 00:50 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 01:05 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > And I'll go back to fixing actual bugs encountered by people instead of > > > random bot-driven bugs. > > > > every abrt report, ever, is an actual bug encountered by an actual > > person. They have to be sufficiently narked about the app crashing (and > > it really must have crashed) to click through a rather convoluted > > process (the first time, anyway) to send in a report. > > Given the time it takes triage them, compared to how long it takes to > file them, I'm not sure it's a win for us. > > > so are all these bugs, for that matter: they're actual bugs encountered > > by Matt. The package failing to build is clearly a bug. Matt tried to > > build it and so encountered the bug. Where does it fail to meet your > > criteria? > > It's a file'n'dump bug. There's no one that actually looked at the bugs > to try and analyse them, nobody to offer a reminder in the bugs (they > were filed and left untouched). > > > I agree it's a bit questionable whether we should block packages for > > FTBFS, but the argument can clearly be made; being self-hosting is > > obviously important for an F/OSS project. At some point it devolves into > > Stallmanite wankery about whether you can flash your mouse, but where > > exactly we should draw the line isn't a slam-dunk :) > > I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. The signal to noise > ratio in the RH bugzilla is far too low to be anything useful, and > piling another bug on top of other bugs, with no reminder apart from > this mail is rude. I'm confused. You want reminders filed in the bugs, but then you say the S-to-N ratio is to low to be useful. I could add automatic reminders in bugzilla, but I don't think that solves your key concern. The packages I posted last night were since F12 only. Personally, I'd like to see all FTBFS since even F14 fixed (they all have bugs filed). -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist Dell | Office of the CTO -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
