On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 03:06:24PM -0500, seth vidal wrote: > On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 21:01 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 02:56:19PM -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > > On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 14:55 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > > seth vidal (skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) said: > > > > > Bittorrent won't work through many/most wireless routers unless they are > > > > > not natted and/or not explicitly configured. > > > > > > > > > > what network games? > > > > > Heck, what network games do we HAVE? > > > > > > > > > > what are the use cases of zeroconf-enabled apps that we're targetting? > > > > > > > > Zeroconf and IPP browse packets are both means of making priting less > > > > of a giant pain to set up. > > > > > > ah, printing. > > > > > > Is there anything that's not last century? > > > > > > Yeah, general discovery. From the top of my head: > > - Pulseaudio sinks and sources > > - libvirt instances for virt-manager > > - VNC desktops for Vinagre > > - local web pages (think SOHO router config page) for zeroconf > > enabled Webbrowsers like Epiphany > > - remote disk management (udisks) > > - local FTP sites and WebDAV shares shown in nautilus places > > > > And this is all blocked by default Fedora firewall settings (5353/udp). > > > > I'm confused - are any of the above intended to be used/available by > anyone who is NOT experienced enough to know what iptables are and how > to manage them? B/c I think it's a bit unlikely. Our tooling around avahi sucks (even the command line tools), but the idea itself is quite wonderful. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into Xen guests. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-p2v -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel