On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 15:53 -0700, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > On 12/01/2010 03:17 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I don't really see any reason why *everyone* who's a packager shouldn't > > also have signed up to be a proven tester by now. I'd like to ask if > > anyone has a perception that it's a hard process to get involved in, or > > if they got the impression that they *shouldn't* get engaged in it, or > > something like that. Maybe we can improve the presentation to make it > > clear that this really ought to be a very wide-based process. > > Well I never read anything specifically about the requirements, however > based of the name alone, 'proven tester' and relating it to 'proven > packager' I assumed I'd need to be more experienced before I signed up. Ah. I'm not sure if we can change the name...what might be 'friendlier'? It's certainly not intended to be as 3l33t as provenpackager. > Also, I don't find the tools for updates-testing particularly friendly > enough yet. I wrote in a thread awhile ago what I thought could be very > useful to entice people to use updates-testing. I know there are some > tools which together would allow me to do this, however I'm looking for > a very simple, comprehensive tool that shows me what is in updates > testing, what I've installed from there, or create a list of packages > I'm interested in in updates-testing and never show me otherwise etc... fedora-easy-karma makes it very, very easy. Have you tried it? You just run it, at a console, and it detects all the packages you have installed from updates-testing, gives you the description of each, and asks you to provide feedback for each (or skip). It's really a one-stop. It's described in the proven tester documentation, but really all you need to know is 'yum install fedora-easy-karma', 'fedora-easy-karma'. It has a --critpath-only parameter to show only critpath updates, if you're in a hurry and just want to provide feedback on the most important updates. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
