On 12/01/2010 03:17 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > I don't really see any reason why *everyone* who's a packager shouldn't > also have signed up to be a proven tester by now. I'd like to ask if > anyone has a perception that it's a hard process to get involved in, or > if they got the impression that they *shouldn't* get engaged in it, or > something like that. Maybe we can improve the presentation to make it > clear that this really ought to be a very wide-based process. Well I never read anything specifically about the requirements, however based of the name alone, 'proven tester' and relating it to 'proven packager' I assumed I'd need to be more experienced before I signed up. Also, I don't find the tools for updates-testing particularly friendly enough yet. I wrote in a thread awhile ago what I thought could be very useful to entice people to use updates-testing. I know there are some tools which together would allow me to do this, however I'm looking for a very simple, comprehensive tool that shows me what is in updates testing, what I've installed from there, or create a list of packages I'm interested in in updates-testing and never show me otherwise etc... I'm not saying I won't test without it - however I wouldn't be able to give dedicated time. I test updates I push out, I test updates for bugs I've filed. Otherwise I don't have time to look at anything else. I include the thread as reference only. It seemed someone in that thread did say they were looking at building just such a tool... Anyway. I want to help out more, but I'm so busy with $realjob that I need a very easy way to see updates I'm willing to test, pull them back if something goes wrong, and submit karma quickly from one simple place... http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-June/138077.html -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel