Kevin Fenzi wrote: > So, there are no folks in the KDE sig using F13 anymore? > > Perhaps call for testers in the users / kde lists? I think this issue goes far, far beyond just KDE. There are packages which have few users even for Fedora n, let alone n-1. Yet another example of the update processes delaying an update for ages is the recent libgsf update https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgsf-1.14.18-1.fc13 , which was stuck for a month until the maintainer sent a nagmail to this mailing list (a method to get provenpackager attention which doesn't really scale). (libgsf is critpath due to being a dependency of something critical, so it gets the extra-hardcore policy.) The processes just don't work, for the EXACT reasons I had brought up back when they were about to be introduced. It's time to stop living in denial, admit that the new processes are a failure and repeal them entirely. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
