On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 04:05 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: > > And what happens when all the apps are native Wayland apps and > > none of those can be run remotely? > > > > If I wanted to step back to the pre-net era, I'd run Windows. > > +1 for bringing these points up. No offense to krh (because it's nice > technology) but you can pull my genuine networked applications from my > cold dead hands. I agree that I see this ongoing trend to move toward > things that are fluffy and pretty at the cost of flexibility. AIUI the Grand Plan is for everyone to write apps in GTK+ and Qt (which is more or less the case already), and for GTK+ and Qt to be compatible with *both* Wayland and X. Again AIUI, there's no impediment to this in the design of Wayland and it's actually what Wayland's designers expect to happen, in order to make sure things still work on platforms where Wayland isn't available, and to deal with exactly this kind of case. So I think the future vision is that if you're running on your system you get a shiny Wayland-y version, and if you run something via ssh -x you get a slightly less pretty X version. And all the Hard Stuff happens in the background and you don't really have to care about it. If I'm wrong, someone correct me, but I think I'm right and people are getting a rather misleading vision of a glorious future where everything only runs on Wayland, which I don't think is the idea at all. (presumably if you're one of the few apps which don't use a toolkit, you should yourself make sure you support both Wayland and X. Or make sure no-one wants to run your apps over a network, or there's another way to do it.) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
