Adam Williamson wrote: > Again, you're extrapolating way too far from a single problem case. The > problem is simply that we have the xorg-x11-drivers metapackage which > requires every single X driver and is in the critpath. There's various > ways we could adjust this so it's no longer the case. It's hardly > something that renders an entire policy invalid. Another example for how the critical path policy breaks things: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firstboot-1.113-4.fc14 This update adds support for xfwm4 and openbox to the firstboot code. Updates for those 2 window managers: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xfwm4-4.6.2-2.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openbox-3.4.11.2-4.fc14 which add the virtual firstboot(windowmanager) Provides have already been pushed to stable! So now we have 2 WMs satisfying firstboot's dependencies, but not actually supported by its code. The result: the Xfce and LXDE spins will be outright BROKEN. (And it's not my fault, I only did the firstboot build and update requests, the other 2 packages were pushed by cwickert.) I CANNOT push the firstboot update which UNBREAKS those 2 spins because of the update policy. So instead of preventing breakage, the policy CAUSES breakage! How can it fail more spectacularly for you to finally realize it's a failure? To all proventesters: please +1 that update, EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T TESTED IT, we need to get out of this impasse! Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel