On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:27:07 +0100, M A Young <m.a.young@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I agree. I was worried when systemd appeared in F14 just before the alpha. > Really we should have been much closer to where we are now at the start of > the alpha phase, and systemd should have gone in soon after F13 was forked > off. This is pretty much my feeling on this too. There really isn't that much time left before final freeze and there are still some backwards compatibility quirks that need to be dealt with (by prominent documentation or elimination) or we are going to cause pain for sysadmin type users. I think things will go a lot smoother having an F15 release. And we can still get the followon improvements originbally planned for F15, as that development doesn't need to wait just because the basic support was slipped to F15. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel