On 08/28/2010 06:42 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > This is utter bullshit. It assumes that anybody who works in the corporate world and happens to have an interest in Fedora is somehow going to be a puppet for the Smokey backroom corporate overlords and their evil designs upon Fedora. It's ludicrous. What about people who work for a university, or work for themselves? Are they somehow immune to making decisions that benefit themselves or their paycheck writer? > > This continued distinction of "corporate worker" vs "community" is pointless and poisonous. Jesse excuse me since I dont think this is utter bullshit and pointless and poisonous. I just want remind you that I both live and come from a country that recently was flushed down the drain thanks to a hand full of smokey back room corporate overlords. You might not believe in their existance but I certanly do since I'm paying for their mistake as will my descendants. There is a difference for individual that get paid to work with a project and those that don't but do so of their own free will and that individual might well be working for the same company as the one that get paid to do so. The distinction remains the same thou, one is the doing something to benefit his employer in some way or form, he may like what he's doing but in the end that's still what he's doing while the other one is not. I have absolutely no idea how many of Red Hat employs are doing because they get paid to do so and how many of them are contributing to Fedora on their own accordance and honestly you cant expect me to know that. Perhaps you can share some light on that? I have no idea where Fedora stands within Red Hat and if there is some kind of backup plan that Red Hat has in place encase it gets bought by some corporate which looks at Fedora and deems it not profitable enough and decides to write it of. But the threat is real so regardless of what the corporate entity is we need to remain strong enough to stand on our own two fleets if we ever find ourself in that situation. Let's just hope it never comes down to that. JBG -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel