On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 15:23 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:11:58AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > If we're still including upstart as a fallback option, I think it's > > The intent is not to do so in the final release, AIUI. We're only > > keeping it around during pre-release, so that if we decide we need to > > fall back to upstart for final release, it's easy to do. As far as I > > know, the plan is to decide later (presumably after beta) which one > > we're going with, and dump the other. > > > Making a big change like that _after_ beta seems like an invitation to > trouble, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt to you as the QA guy. So in > that case, the requirement could simply be that at the time of the beta, > they do basically the same things, or in cases where they do different > things, it is 1) intentional *and* 2) documented. It's not really a big change, it's a couple of lines in a couple of spec files, and it's fairly easy to test (do live/image composes still pull systemd? does an upgrade from f13 replace upstart with systemd? okay, then we're good). It has nothing like the wide scope of the actual *code* change involved here, which we will have been testing all along. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel