On 08/17/2010 03:22 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Manuel Wolfshant > <wolfy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Do you REALLY believe that in a world where 90% of the desktops are >> Windows, where 2 thirds of the browser market is shared by IE and safari >> and where making governments to share public documents in a public >> format rather than .doc/.xls/etc, web site managers would care if you >> stop visiting their site ( which you probably NEED to access otherwise >> you would not be trying to visit it in the first place) ? >> > [snip] > > I don't agree with the suggestions here to restrict it, but I think > the implications here sucks. > > Is it better to have a world where 90% is Fedora but every user has > less freedom over their data and applications than they would in > windows because they are only using Fedora as a really excellent > remote terminal to web applications which give them no control over > their data or the programs that they use? > > Disallowing compatibility with the world doesn't fix it but neither > does ignoring the significant problems posed by non-free web > applications and the enormous influence they will have over the fedora > experience in the coming decades. > > Or in other words— for those who care about freedom making Fedora a > first class platform for web apps is mostly just rearranging the deck > chairs on the titanic— we're screwed either way. > To cut it short: I love freedom and this is why I use linux for 16 years now (despite starting my professional career as a DOS / windows programmer). But I do not write the rules and I prefer to have time to see a movie or have a long weekend rather than chasing video / audio / browser plugins. When I can, I advise against using proprietary / non-free formats. But that is not always a choice and experience has shown me that commercial companies most usually that not don't give a **** on my opinion when I mail them to tell them " your site looks like c**p in anything else but IE ". As a sidenote, on my home WS ( centos5 /x86_64) I still have to use adobe's flash plugin v9. Since upgrading to most recent firefox version as provided by the distro, with v10 all I get is a black rectangle instead of the clip. While on my work WS, firefox from RHEL6b2 /x86_64 after some period of usage (counted in dozens of minutes at most) must be restarted or it simply does not react to any JS inside the pages. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
