On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 10:52 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> said: > > but it's far from easy for somebody who's > > not already an experienced upstream kernel developer to manage that, LKML is > > a tough place: there's politics making it hard for new contributors to get > > their stuff in, there are many rules (technical, cosmetic (i.e. code > > formatting rules), and social) you have to learn over the time, > > I've heard this before, but I didn't find it to be that much different > than any other project where I've contributed changes. I think the > biggest annoyance was that, because the kernel project is so big and > hierarchical, you don't always get a lot of feedback (even when one of > the maintainers picks up your patch in their tree to go upstream). Me either. I'm not a coder, I don't really know anyone involved in kernel development. Yet I have a bona fide kernel commit to my name - f71cf2a2181aef25513272991f54148799ddc1f0 . I notice multiple cases of Kevin complaining how political certain projects are, and how much they hate outsiders, and how difficult it is to get stuff committed to them. I note that the common link between all these cases appears to be Kevin. Perhaps the problem isn't the projects, after all? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel