On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:17:39 +0200 Sven Lankes <sven@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:21:50PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > > > I wonder why I get the impression that the only ones who strongly > > oppose this change are you folks from KDE SIG... Are you doing > > things differently from anyone else in fedora - the rest of us are > > either more or less neutral or positive towards this new change? > > I don't think that this about the KDE SIG at all. > > Not everyone is as passionate (or stubborn) as Kevin. I agree. > Most fedorians I talk to are watching all the discussions to see if > the fedora that is currently being formed with all the changes that > are happening is still a distribution that they're comfortable > contributing to. And as the only way to get heard is to fuel a > flamewar on fedora-devel they just stay silent. I think the flamewars are making people think this is a bigger deal than it really is. > > [...] I'm for more testing and more conservative update policy in > > general in stable branches. > > I don't oppose the ongoing changes in general but still - when I read > through fesco meeting logs I am often disappointed by the amount of > politics going on and more than once I wished that FESCO as a whole > would grow a pair. Can you expand on that? I'm not sure what you mean... > I for one have decided that I'm going to stop contributing if the > 'Stable Update Vision' is going to be implemented as currently > discussed. If the powers that be are going to stop maintainers from > issuing updates that are not security or bugfix updates then fedora > will have turned into a distro that I'm not interested in. Bring your concerns to the Board that issued the vision statement? I personally think the "just security and bugfixes" is too strong. I am going to try and push for an exceptions process that takes into account upstreams that don't release in a way thats compatible with fedora's release cycle. I hope you won't be hasty and will try and work with whatever framework we end up with and help us adjust it. kevin
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