On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.prop@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me >> to this conclusion? Well look at this: >> * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs right now [1] >> * there was not fixed a single bug last six months (since 2010-02-23) [2][3] >> * there are not only "not pulseaudio, but alsa is broken" bugs, for example >> abrt reported crashes >> >> No development, no bug fixing, hard to say if there are any comments from >> bug assignee(s) at all. I've checked only a few bug and did not find any, >> only from bug reporters pinging or asking if more info is required, but I >> did not check it using bugzilla query (don't know if it's possible at all). >> >> So, again, is PulseAudio dead? Seems to me > > No, it's not. I am just pushing systemd through right now, and did other > stuff. > > Also, check upstream git to figure out whether a project is dead. The > last commit there is from 2 weeks ago. Git can tell you something about > whether development happens. Bugzilla just tells you whether I have > devoted my life to processing bug reports. And well, I haven't done > that. Sorry that I don't exclsuively spend my time on making my stats on > bugzilla look pretty. If I did, then I would not get any real work done > anymore. > > Most of the abrt stuff can probably be merged as duplicates. I'd welcome > if somebody wants to go through this and do this. Hello Lennart, first let me thank you for everything you do for the FOSS community. Sadly i have to point the other side out. You might don't like that, but this page http://fedorasolved.org/Members/fenris02/pulseaudio-fixes-and-workarounds is the #1 page needed on our IRC support channel #fedora (I need to check if it's the all-time-high). I'm sure you don't like to read that, but PA isn't that perfect yet, from a supporters POV (even PA works very well out of the box here for a long time). We're a bit afraid you leave us with a systemd like PA if you find something else that enjoys you more. You're a very good coder and as well very good in pushing trough. Maybe you need (to learn?) to share the work that comes with all that a bit better. Or start to educate some people to be able to help you. And maybe listen a little bit to the people trying to help others in the front line. Thank you. -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel