Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

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On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.prop@xxxxxxxxx) wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me
>> to this conclusion? Well look at this:
>> * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs right now [1]
>> * there was not fixed a single bug last six months (since 2010-02-23) [2][3]
>> * there are not only "not pulseaudio, but alsa is broken" bugs, for example
>> abrt reported crashes
>>
>> No development, no bug fixing, hard to say if there are any comments from
>> bug assignee(s) at all. I've checked only a few bug and did not find any,
>> only from bug reporters pinging or asking if more info is required, but I
>> did not check it using bugzilla query (don't know if it's possible at all).
>>
>> So, again, is PulseAudio dead? Seems to me
>
> No, it's not. I am just pushing systemd through right now, and did other
> stuff.
>
> Also, check upstream git to figure out whether a project is dead. The
> last commit there is from 2 weeks ago. Git can tell you something about
> whether development happens. Bugzilla just tells you whether I have
> devoted my life to processing bug reports. And well, I haven't done
> that. Sorry that I don't exclsuively spend my time on making my stats on
> bugzilla look pretty. If I did, then I would not get any real work done
> anymore.
>
> Most of the abrt stuff can probably be merged as duplicates. I'd welcome
> if somebody wants to go through this and do this.

Hello Lennart,

first let me thank you for everything you do for the FOSS community.

Sadly i have to point the other side out. You might don't like that,
but this page http://fedorasolved.org/Members/fenris02/pulseaudio-fixes-and-workarounds
is the #1 page needed on our IRC support channel #fedora (I need to
check if it's the all-time-high). I'm sure you don't like to read
that, but PA isn't that perfect yet, from a supporters POV (even PA
works very well out of the box here for a long time).
We're a bit afraid you leave us with a systemd like PA if you find
something else that enjoys you more.

You're a very good coder and as well very good in pushing trough.
Maybe you need (to learn?) to share the work that comes with all that
a bit better. Or start to educate some people to be able to help you.
And maybe listen a little bit to the people trying to help others in
the front line. Thank you.

-- 
LG Thomas

Dubium sapientiae initium
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