On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 18:50 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.prop@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me > > to this conclusion? Well look at this: > > * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs right now [1] > > * there was not fixed a single bug last six months (since 2010-02-23) [2][3] > > * there are not only "not pulseaudio, but alsa is broken" bugs, for example > > abrt reported crashes > > > > No development, no bug fixing, hard to say if there are any comments from > > bug assignee(s) at all. I've checked only a few bug and did not find any, > > only from bug reporters pinging or asking if more info is required, but I > > did not check it using bugzilla query (don't know if it's possible at all). > > > > So, again, is PulseAudio dead? Seems to me > > No, it's not. I am just pushing systemd through right now, and did other > stuff. > > Also, check upstream git to figure out whether a project is dead. The > last commit there is from 2 weeks ago. Git can tell you something about > whether development happens. Bugzilla just tells you whether I have > devoted my life to processing bug reports. And well, I haven't done > that. Sorry that I don't exclsuively spend my time on making my stats on > bugzilla look pretty. If I did, then I would not get any real work done > anymore. > > Most of the abrt stuff can probably be merged as duplicates. I'd welcome > if somebody wants to go through this and do this. > > BTW, would be cool to direct flamewar-inducing mails like this to me > directly, first. Unless of course you think flamewars are a good thing, > not a bad thing. > > Lennart > > -- > Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. I am a little off this subject personally but would like to express my thought on that. Knowing that you won't put the time PA need and that you will focus on another project for a relatively long period of time, would the ideal workflow to follow is to try to find someone to replace you or at least tell the world that you won't put anymore time fixing bugs? That way, someone could have stepped up and help you. Currently, it took someone to find out that no bug was fix for a long period of time to know that you don't check them anymore. I think that PA is an important part of a default Fedora system and knowing that nobody currently monitor bugs and fix them seems a little bit alarming to me. This is not a criticism, I currently like what you are doing with systemd. But, I think this should be addressed correctly for the future. -- Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) GPG key : 0xA9E6E953
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