On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Peter Jones wrote: > On 07/28/2010 01:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 11:37 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 03:04:46PM +0200, Florent Le Coz wrote: > >>> On 28/07/2010 14:52, Mike McGrath wrote: > >>>> In my opinion including software that even upstream says is not ready is > >>>> for a distribution that's "lost their way". We can still be a leading > >>>> distribution and not include pre-release software. Especially pre-release > >>>> software that's not only in our critical path, but also something that > >>>> almost all of us use every day. > >>> I agree, but doesn't that mean that Firefox 4.0 won't be available in > >>> F14 at all and will only be in F15? > >>> I think it would be a huge drawback for Fedora 14. > >> > >> It would be huge if there people who can't live without it didn't have > >> any other way of getting it than having it pre-packaged. I think > >> Firefox 4 looks to be fantastic, but the truth is that people only > >> have to wait a few months for a release with it pre-packaged, if > >> they're not able to add it on their own. > > > > I'd rather we provide them a package than have people going out and > > installing software from third-party sources (yes, mozilla.org is hardly > > Evil, but it sets a bad precedent). I really don't see much of a reason > > we can't ship it as a post-release update. We'd probably want to do that > > in the end anyway, because Mozilla tends to stop security supporting old > > branches anyway; it's certainly plausible that they stop supporting 3.x > > during F14's support lifetime. > > Just because it isn't in the F14 repo doesn't mean it won't be available to > people who really want a packaged version earlier - look at spot's chromium > packages, for example. And I really expect the F14-F15 time frame to be a very > similar situation with Firefox - just because it's released doesn't mean there > isn't some time to wait before it's really shippable. 6 months won't be the > end of the world, especially if it's added to an add-on repo someplace so > people can get it if they really want something other than ff3. > Perhaps it's time to figure out how to make things like Tom's chromium more official. Find actual hosting/mirroring for that stuff, make a clear path to get people to it but also letting them know "hey, your milage may vary". -Mike -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
