On 07/26/2010 10:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 11:32 -0400, Peter Jones wrote: >> On 07/25/2010 04:30 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >>> On 25/07/10 07:34, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>>> Greetings. >>>> >>>> first it seems that systemd-sysvinit needs to add a: >>>> >>>> Provides: sysvinit-userspace >>>> >>>> To avoid the current conflicts/upgrade problems: >>>> >>>> ---> Package upstart-sysvinit.x86_64 0:0.6.5-7.fc14 set to be installed >>>> --> Processing Conflict: upstart-sysvinit-0.6.5-7.fc14.x86_64 conflicts systemd-sysvinit >>>> --> Processing Conflict: systemd-sysvinit-4-3.fc14.x86_64 conflicts upstart-sysvinit >>>> Error: systemd-sysvinit conflicts with upstart-sysvinit >>> >>> thank Seth? for yum --exclude=systemd\* >>> >>> Will systemd be default in F14-Branched, >>> or be kept with devel? >> >> As of yet, that's still undecided. > > That doesn't sound right. AIUI, the situation is that systemd will be > default for F-14 unless we find it to be horribly broken, hence it will > become the default in F14-Branched when it branches (unless we've > already decided it's horribly broken by then, which doesn't seem > likely). If you consult http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meetbot/fedora-meeting/2010-06-15/fesco.2010-06-15-19.35.log.html , you'll see that what FESCo agreed on was that it was a desirable feature, and that we would revisit the question of being default in F-14 later, when there's more actual data. That being said, I expect it will remain default in the branch for at least some amount of time for the same reason, and because that's the default state if nobody specifically changes it. -- Peter In computing, turning the obvious into the useful is a living definition of the word "frustration" -- Alan Perlis 01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel