Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 14.07.10 21:38, Bill Nottingham (notting@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: [...] > > I think some of this is just the tools being inconsistent in terminology. > > > > Take systemctl: > > > > - It has a LOAD column (which is always 'loaded', in observation) > > Well, that is a hint whether the unit file was loaded properly. It can > happen that a running service has an invalid unit file (i.e. you started > service with a valid file, then edited and reloaded the config file), so > the "load" state is independendant of the runtime state. That said, we > probably could suppress this column for services which loaded fine > (which should be the usual case) Better mark them off-band somehow (i.e., a extra column (normally empty, no header) that shows failures/abnormal cases). [...] > > - IT has JOB column (which is always empty, in observation) > > Well, its empty if there's nothing started or being stooped right now, > or is waiting for some dependencies to start/stop. It will be empty if > your systemd started up completely, because there is nothing to do. Ditto. -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 2654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 2654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile 2340000 Fax: +56 32 2797513 -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel