On Wed, 26.05.10 19:45, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > Le dimanche 23 mai 2010 à 00:34 +0200, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > > > ATM everything looks rosy. I just finished porting over all F13 > > installed-by-default daemons to socket activation, and a few more (and > > the patches are good enough to be upstreamable). > > For this kind of stuff I strongly suggest you do not limit yourself to > F13 installed-by-default daemons (which are mostly well-behaved C/C++ > desktop-oriented code) but pass the reality check of converting > important server daemons (postfix, apache, bind...) and non C/C++ > services (jboss or tomcat in java, amavisd-new or something else in > perl, etc) Well, I'd argue that for server software like that neither the lazy-loading of daemons nor fast booting is really crucial. It's OK if a server takes a bit longer to boot. It's way less important than for a desktop or laptop. The focus of the service activation work should be on services needed by desktop systems I guess. For everything else the implicit activation is handy too, but not as crucial. > Otherwise you'll replay the networkmanager drama with part of the Fedora > users going the new laptop way, part refusing to even look at it because > it can not translate in the server stuff they need at work, and everyone > being very sad, unhappy, and angry at others. Well, while network configuration is certainly very important for server setups, super-fast booting and lazy-loading of daemons is not. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
