On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:27:17PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > We can only take this Fedora principle so far. There are many bits of > code in the kernel which work around broken ACPI / BIOS behaviour (as > you well know, sorry for the egg-sucking lesson). If we were being > really annoying literalists we (well, rather 'kernel developers' than > 'we', but many of them are Fedora / RH people) would never do this; we'd > close all the bugs with a note to the reporter to go and get their > motherboard manufacturer to fix it. Being sensible people, we recognize > there really *is* a limit to the 'we shouldn't work around brokenness' > argument, and it comes when the brokenness is in the hands of such > capricious souls as hardware manufacturers. The systems where holding > down a key during boot doesn't bring up grub are badly designed systems, > this is perfectly true. But still, the sensible path is to make > reasonable accommodations for this sort of thing. Let's face it, if > we're waiting on Sony or HP to fix this, we'll be waiting a while. Or, alternatively, we can actually look into the problem and determine whether there's an elegant way of handling it. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel