On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 10:40 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 08:23 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > > > What if a user puts in a timeout - after a successful boot will it > > stay or be reset to 0. It should never change what the user desires ... > > you may need a fancier smarter set of rules. > > Ok, did a test install this morning on a dual boot (Win 7) system and > the grub timeout was set to 5, which is as directed for multi boot > systems or installs using serial. > > Also, I changed the timeout after the install and it stays that way and > doesn't change back. The setting is permanently until I change it > again. To clarify what the actual current situation is here, everyone's right. =) As of F<=12 and F13 RC3, the situation is as Mike describes above, when installing in a situation that anaconda recognizes as 'dual boot', you get a default 5 second time out. You also get this with a serial install. With an install _not_ of the kind described above, you currently get a 0 timeout, which is what's mostly under discussion now: whether we should have a non-zero timeout for all installations, even single-boot. The wrinkle is that with F13 < RC3, you got 0 second timeout even in the dual boot case. This was simply a bug that we fixed in RC3. It was always _intended_ that you'd get a non-zero timeout in dual-boot scenarios, but we just managed to break that during the F13 cycle. That's why Frank Murphy posted about getting a 0 timeout with Windows installed. (FWIW, I'd prefer a non-zero timeout in all cases, for reasons others have already mentioned). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel