On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 22:11 +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote: > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gilboa Davara <gilboad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > If we, as a -community- project, want to remain relevant, it is time to > > decide who we are and what is our goal. > > Agreed. The who we are is easy answered, we're RHs *playground*. That > is what everyone, not completely new to Linux, knows and one problem > why we're at 1.3% as mentioned above. Something that other distros > don't have to suffer from. And we're gladly acting like it, e.g. > x-server not compatible with HW vendor drivers at release time > (believe it or not, but users were angry about it). Bleeding edge > stuff like PA as first, ready or not for the masses. > One of the most frequented link in #fedora was/is > http://fedorasolved.org/Members/fenris02/pulseaudio-fixes-and-workarounds > Just two examples. > > No wonder we're at about 1.3% eh ;) I don't agree with that, entirely. Think about it - Red Hat sells big enterprise stuff. Mostly servers. Directly, PA and bleeding edge X stuff isn't of huge immediate interest to RH. I mean, of course RH is going to pay people to work on stuff it thinks will ultimately benefit it, but it does take a rather broad and long view of this (think how long it's taken for PA to even be in RHEL at all). But we are a _general_ 'playground' (or rather sandbox), for the development of interesting and useful bits of technology. I think you can look at Fedora almost as a concept car; we're developing technologies that will be useful in the consumer car of the future, but we're _not_ that car, in a practical sense. We have all the rough edges and bits that won't be practical in the end. As Kevin says in his reply, I think doing stuff like the above - PA, X devleopment - is a strength of Fedora. It's one of the things we do well, and for which we're valuable. But it doesn't necessarily make for the best end-user general purpose operating system for the present moment in time; we're blazing a trail ahead. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
