Personally I think Fedora is good at what it does, and although it causes me some frustration that Fedora isn't better at wooing mass market users, I wouldn't want to make radical changes to structures and processes to chase some goals. There would be much easier and more painless ways to woo these users without actually changing how Fedora is put together. I'm talking about marketing, evangelism and education. If there are technical issues that are found to hold this back then let them be addressed, but don't change the project and risk alienating the contributors for the sake of *theoretical* improvements. Adam - I use Fedora at home - one server and four laptop / PC workstations. It's very fit for purpose, in fact has less downtime and is more easily maintained than the two Windows machines we have. My mum uses Fedora too. At work we use CentOS but that is historical, we might as easily be running Fedora. I think the barriers to mass adoption by and large aren't technical. Also these goals really shouldn't be used as a rationale for changes unless you are sure of what you will achieve. -Cam -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel