On 05/05/2010 12:42 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Agreed, I'm tired of (insert random benchmarking site) saying "OH NOES! >> Fedora got SLOWER AGAIN!" when it's really a lot of debug going on. >> >> Stating something like this clearly on login & install would be nice, >> not just for this MALLOC_PERTURB_ change but in general. > > Doesn't this whole discussion about debugging versus performance also > apply to F13 pre-release testing as well.. and not just rawhide? At > what point do we turn off additional debugging in the kernel and > whatnot ahead of going gold in the new branched pre-release workflow? > Is the kernel debugging still on in F13 systems right now? If there > really is a debugging win here should we sync the MALLOC_PERTURB > enablament policy to whatever is happening with kernel debugging for > branched pre-releases as well as rawhide? > > This way pre-release systems installed at the time of the beta have > debugging enabled, and users are informed of the debugging effort (and > thanked for their participation!), but at some point via an updated > package it gets turned off (barring any local overrides) a some > definite point in the pre-release run up. FWIW I just sent a patch to anaconda devel requesting some text be added to the "hey this is a beta" nag screen. :) -Eric > > -jef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel