On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Agreed, I'm tired of (insert random benchmarking site) saying "OH NOES! > Fedora got SLOWER AGAIN!" when it's really a lot of debug going on. > > Stating something like this clearly on login & install would be nice, > not just for this MALLOC_PERTURB_ change but in general. Doesn't this whole discussion about debugging versus performance also apply to F13 pre-release testing as well.. and not just rawhide? At what point do we turn off additional debugging in the kernel and whatnot ahead of going gold in the new branched pre-release workflow? Is the kernel debugging still on in F13 systems right now? If there really is a debugging win here should we sync the MALLOC_PERTURB enablament policy to whatever is happening with kernel debugging for branched pre-releases as well as rawhide? This way pre-release systems installed at the time of the beta have debugging enabled, and users are informed of the debugging effort (and thanked for their participation!), but at some point via an updated package it gets turned off (barring any local overrides) a some definite point in the pre-release run up. -jef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel