Jesse Keating wrote: > Bad data is worse than no data. I disagree. As "bad" as the data is, it can't be worse than claiming users want, or worse, "need", conservative updates without any evidence whatsoever as has been done! In fact I can bring you non-statistical evidence for the opposite: There is already a distribution which works the way people suggested (releases every 6 months, does not upgrade their stable releases to new upstream releases). It's called "Ubuntu". People who want such a system are already happily using Ubuntu, why would they want to use Fedora (which currently does NOT work this way)? People are using Fedora because they are NOT happy with what Ubuntu is doing. Therefore, the results of the poll didn't surprise me in the least. > Of course the sample is biased. It's a sample of people who frequent > the forums, that's a self selecting group of people, by no means a > worthwhile representation of the Fedora user base as a whole. Sure, it's a self-selecting group of people, but there's no evidence that the result is not representative. Only better data could prove that claim. > Proper scientific data collection is hard, really hard. To do it right > would take a lot of time and engineering and even argument. I don't > want to put in that time, Of course you don't. It would keep you from arbitrary claiming that "users want" or even "need" exactly what YOU personally want. Sure, let's not get those nasty FACTS get in the way of our dictatorship, eh? > nor do I think we could ever be able to truly have a good representation > as we have no hard data on who all uses Fedora, and in which ways. Then imperfect data is what you'll have to work with. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel