On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 10:16:48PM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 01:58 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> Jesse Keating wrote: > >> The poll told us an approximate proportion, which is so far from 50-50 > >> (72.13%) that we clearly have a statistically significant majority, also > >> considering the sample size N=183. If you want me to actually compute some > >> p-values and do statistical tests, I can do that, but to me the numbers look > >> obvious. > >> > >> Now you may try to argue that the sample is biased, but you have no actual > >> evidence towards that. > > > > Of course the sample is biased. It's a sample of people who frequent > > the forums, that's a self selecting group of people, by no means a > > worthwhile representation of the Fedora user base as a whole. > > > > Please stop talking about imaginary users who do not care to voice > themselves. This is of "zero" use. > > The statistic talks. It doesn't only talk. It yells. Ignoring this > test statistic in favor of the large pool of imaginary users, who > supposedly think in the complete other direction, is not only > non-scientific, stupid., but also self-conflicting. The imaginary > users do not voice themselves. If you change the policy, do you really > expect hundreds of thousands of imaginary users to become real, and > start yelling at you? No, they will still remain imaginary. I resent being called an imaginary user. Being imaginary would seriously screw with my weekend plans. Cheers, Peter > And perhaps, they will start thinking in the other direction and become > imaginary evidence for certain people to ignore some further > statistical data. This is nonsense. > > Sorry for my use of the word "stupid", but this biasedness claim > really falls in that category. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel