On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 01:58 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Jesse Keating wrote: >> The poll told us an approximate proportion, which is so far from 50-50 >> (72.13%) that we clearly have a statistically significant majority, also >> considering the sample size N=183. If you want me to actually compute some >> p-values and do statistical tests, I can do that, but to me the numbers look >> obvious. >> >> Now you may try to argue that the sample is biased, but you have no actual >> evidence towards that. > > Of course the sample is biased. It's a sample of people who frequent > the forums, that's a self selecting group of people, by no means a > worthwhile representation of the Fedora user base as a whole. > Please stop talking about imaginary users who do not care to voice themselves. This is of "zero" use. The statistic talks. It doesn't only talk. It yells. Ignoring this test statistic in favor of the large pool of imaginary users, who supposedly think in the complete other direction, is not only non-scientific, stupid., but also self-conflicting. The imaginary users do not voice themselves. If you change the policy, do you really expect hundreds of thousands of imaginary users to become real, and start yelling at you? No, they will still remain imaginary. And perhaps, they will start thinking in the other direction and become imaginary evidence for certain people to ignore some further statistical data. This is nonsense. Sorry for my use of the word "stupid", but this biasedness claim really falls in that category. Orcan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel