Tom Lane wrote: > Wouldn't it be sensible to approach the Mozilla folk about getting them > to relax their requirements so that sane packaging is possible? ISTM > that this must be a problem for other distros too. We have tried, Debian has tried, other distros have tried, Mozilla just said "no". The problem is that, unlike most other upstreams, Mozilla does not see even a coalition of all GNU/Linux distros as an almighty power you have to give its way, but only as a secondary platform next to Window$ from whose users they get millions of downloads. So they feel they're in the position of power and get to dictate to us what we have to do. They also care very little about the needs of distros and it took years for some of the system libs to get used rather than bundled, for things like system icons getting adopted etc. They still suck in the system integration domain in many ways, e.g. openSUSE's KDE integration patches have yet to be merged, and of course our maintainers refuse to merge openSUSE's patches due to the usual trademark concerns (which openSUSE doesn't seem to be concerned about, they just ship those patches in branded packages, so either Mozilla approved them, which means we can ship them too, or they just didn't care, so why should we?). Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel