On Monday 29 March 2010 14:20:57 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 03/29/2010 02:11 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > On Monday 29 March 2010 14:03:51 Yaakov Nemoy wrote: > >> 2010/3/29 Michał Piotrowski<mkkp4x4@xxxxxxxxx>: > >>> 2010/3/29 Oliver Falk<oliver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > >>>> I had similar issues already and I totally agree with Christoph! > >>>> The maintainer should not redirect the bugreporter to the upstream > >>>> bugreporting plattform. I already have plenty of accounts on upstream > >>>> bugzillas because of exactly this... > >>> > >>> I don't see any problem here if KDE SIG just declare "we don't fix KDE > >>> bugs, we just update packages". > >>> > >>> They are not KDE developers, so they don't know how to fix these bugs. > >> > >> This response regardless, as a downstream user of a package, if i > >> report a bug, it's nice to know if it's going to be fixed in a current > >> release or not. Until the upstream bugfix lands in a package > >> downstream, downstream should leave the bug open. > > > > Current Bugzilla policy says CLOSED as UPSTREAM is correct resolution. > > It's just terminology - I would prefer another one - like just UPSTREAM > > status, or ON_DEV UPSTREAM or something similar. CLOSED UPSTREAM does > > not mean that nobody cares! It's still tracked! > > Pardon, but I strongly have to disagree with this interpretation. > > As a user, having been hit by a bug, "CLOSED UPSTREAM" is nothing but a > cheap bold lie packagers use as weak excuse to for not being able to fix > a bug having hit a user. Indeed - we are not able to fix all bugs on our own. So we work with upstream. I said - I don't like to call it "CLOSED". It's not closed, it's still opened issue. > In other words: "FIXED UPSTREAM" does not fix anything for the user > struggling with a bug. It only helps the packager to keep his bug > statistics clean. We usually don't use it - or I don't remember - if the CLOSED UPSTREAM bug is fixed upstream, it's a) backported or b) updated and closed by Bodhi. Jaroslav > Analogous considerations apply to "FIXED RAWHIDE" > > Both bugzilla tags should be banned. > > Ralf -- Jaroslav Řezník <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 602 797 774 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
