Re: Upstream bugs vs. Fedora bugs: KDE people do it wrong

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On Monday 29 March 2010 14:03:51 Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
> 2010/3/29 Michał Piotrowski <mkkp4x4@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > 2010/3/29 Oliver Falk <oliver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> I had similar issues already and I totally agree with Christoph!
> >> The maintainer should not redirect the bugreporter to the upstream
> >> bugreporting plattform. I already have plenty of accounts on upstream
> >> bugzillas because of exactly this...
> > 
> > I don't see any problem here if KDE SIG just declare "we don't fix KDE
> > bugs, we just update packages".
> > 
> > They are not KDE developers, so they don't know how to fix these bugs.
> 
> This response regardless, as a downstream user of a package, if i
> report a bug, it's nice to know if it's going to be fixed in a current
> release or not. Until the upstream bugfix lands in a package
> downstream, downstream should leave the bug open. 

Current Bugzilla policy says CLOSED as UPSTREAM is correct resolution. It's 
just terminology - I would prefer another one - like just UPSTREAM status, or 
ON_DEV UPSTREAM or something similar. CLOSED UPSTREAM does not mean that 
nobody cares! It's still tracked!

> The bug can be used
> to track an update from bodhi too

It's used to track in Bodhi.

> and even suggest to the user that
> he download a package out of testing to see that it is fixed. Without
> the maintainers acting as the man in the middle, a potential bug
> reporter not only has to open an account with the KDE bug tracker, but
> then he might be asked to download source code, build it on his own,
> and do a number of other hassles to help upstream out. 
> The maintainers
> can assist this by helping with test builds and so on. It's their
> responsibility, otherwise to track the issue upstream, regardless
> whether they are active developers.
>

Usually we do this, we provide testing packages etc. But not only on Fedora 
side but both sides. 

Jaroslav

> -Yaakov

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