The whole contents of the gettext package are pretty much for developers-and-translators-only, so it doesn't seem like creating a 'gettext-devel' will win us much compared to the amount of work required. Adding a 'cvs' dependency to 'gettext' will upset a few people, but it's really not that bad a thing. It looks like the main need for gettext outside of developers-and-translators may be using /bin/gettext from shell scripts - moving that file into a 'gettext-utils' subpackage might be an easier and less intrusive solution. I looked at autopoint, and it should be reasonably easy to get rid of its use of CVS by doing a checkout from archive.tar.gz at package build time rather than runtime. Is autopoint even used at all? Some random ideas, -- Elliot The daring is in the doing http://people.redhat.com/sopwith/