On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Matthew Woehlke <mw_triad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Jon Masters wrote: >> On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 01:09 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> Jesse Keating wrote: >>>> Then in my opinion those users, and those maintainers who wish to cater >>>> to those users, can go start their own project. >>> >>> Even if those users are 70+% of the current Fedora users? >> >> Prove it. > > Prove that it *isn't* true. Neither can be done without an outside/neutral polling agency contacting and getting responses from at least 600-3000 random Fedora users. The poll that was given was one that could be easily stuffed and not easily proven that it wasn't. Relying on the forum for data is bad science and makes this whole argument more and more farcical. I am saying this as a mostly neutral body.. I really don't care one way or another beyond my google account is running out of diskspace because of it. > First off: I'm not asking for unbaked stuff. Second, "unbaked stuff" Is > exactly why I have no intention of using rawhide. As for proving my > point, well I've been trying to get through to you people² for the last Here is where we have a definition problem. To me, unbaked stuff is things that haven't had a good month of testing if its a large change (a couple of days if its a small one). To you its something else. To Jon it is probably something else. Without defining what you mean and findout what they mean.. there is no conversation. Most of these threads are hogwash. People are spending more time reading into each others motives without asking for clarification than actually doing the hard work of saying "I don't know what you mean." All this fucking flag waving and "This is my distribution and you are killing it." from BOTH sides is below childish. I have better behaved cub-scouts after feeding them with sugar cookies and giving them woopie cushions. [And I don't want to hear about who started it.. it does not matter at this point.] -- Stephen J Smoogen. Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for? -- Robert Browning -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
