2010-03-12 - F-13-Beta blocker meeting recap

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Greetings,

The first scheduled [1] Fedora 13 Beta blocker bug review was held
earlier today.  In addition to evaluating the current list of F13Beta
bugs [2], we also reviewed the F13Blocker list [3] for bugs that fit the
Beta release criteria [4].

Thanks to all who helped move the meeting along.  A meeting recap is
attached and available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-03-12/f13beta-blocker-review.2010-03-12-16.08.html

Thanks,
James

[1]
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F13Beta
[3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F13Blocker
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Beta_Release_Criteria

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#fedora-bugzappers: F13Beta blocker review
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Meeting started by jlaska at 16:08:44 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-03-12/f13beta-blocker-review.2010-03-12-16.08.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* Gathering ...  (jlaska, 16:09:06)
  * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/yzmg5to   (jlaska, 16:13:48)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565848  (jlaska, 16:15:47)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (jlaska, 16:17:24)
  * AGREED: bug#565848 is a beta blocker  (jlaska, 16:20:54)
  * ACTION: jlaska to summarize F13Beta blocker discussion in 565848
    report for dlehman  (jlaska, 16:23:13)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565879  (jlaska, 16:24:18)
  * suspect this issue is already fixed in F-13-Alpha  (jlaska,
    16:26:12)
  * ACTION: jlaska to retest and update bug  (jlaska, 16:26:21)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568015  (jlaska, 16:27:36)
  * in MODIFIED and fixed in anaconda-13.30-1  (jlaska, 16:28:19)
  * LINK:
    http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=612d92b68c5deffad4ab9edf4d055b1cb1235ff9
    (jlaska, 16:30:04)
  * ACTION: jlaska confirmed this is fixed, will make appropriate
    changes in bugzilla  (jlaska, 16:31:27)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568334  (jlaska, 16:33:39)
  * already fixed in F-13-Alpha (anaconda-13.33-1)  (jlaska, 16:34:20)
  * LINK:
    http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=c61f9d8842baab8431ed1bb10af799e624fe051a
    (jlaska, 16:35:29)
  * AGREED: 568334 is a valid F13Beta blocker affecting upgrades
    (jlaska, 16:40:18)
  * ACTION: fix available in branched/13 awaiting confirmation  (jlaska,
    16:40:38)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568367  (jlaska, 16:41:19)
  * beta rescue mode criteria updated to include RW and RO access of
    existing storage  (jlaska, 16:43:34)
  * AGREED: 568367 is a valid Beta blocker, impacts rescue mode
    read-only mounting of existing storage  (jlaska, 16:46:02)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569377  (jlaska, 16:46:56)
  * needs to be reproduced on more systems  (jlaska, 16:51:36)
  * ACTION: Keep 569377 on the F13Beta list for 1 more week.  If no
    additional reports surface, consider removing from F13Beta (or
    closing)  (jlaska, 16:54:02)
  * ACTION: Oxf13 will deliver split media with RATS image builds
    (Oxf13, 16:55:55)
  * ACTION: jlaska to retest split media on same hardware that
    originally reported the issue  (jlaska, 16:56:14)
  * HELP: Any testing of split media (CD) installs would be appreciated
    (jlaska, 16:56:31)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572489  (jlaska, 16:56:51)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#network-doesnt-connect
    (jlaska, 16:57:58)
  * AGREED: After discussion, agreed 572489 is not a F13 Beta blocker
    (jlaska, 17:12:28)
  * ACTION: Remove 572489 from F13Beta, continue discussion around user
    experience in bug  (jlaska, 17:12:47)
  * ACTION: Set relnotes? for 572489  (jlaska, 17:13:02)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567346  (jlaska, 17:13:22)
  * ACTION: adamw updating 567346 to reflect latest test results
    (jlaska, 17:16:30)
  * 567346 seems unrelated to yum-langpacks plugin, occurs whenever
    dependency problems exist in enabled package repositories  (jlaska,
    17:16:57)
  * ACTION: mclasen and hughsie to discuss issue next week  (jlaska,
    17:19:05)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568106  (jlaska, 17:19:16)
  * LINK:
    https://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2010-February/msg00059.html
    (jlaska, 17:27:03)
  * No consensus reached on F13Beta criteria  (jlaska, 17:29:10)
  * Needs feedback from pjones whether it is a Beta blocker or not
    (jlaska, 17:29:51)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533746  (jlaska, 17:30:05)
  * i think i've heard of one case of the same bug on a non-acer system,
    but mostly people notice it on Aspire Ones  (jlaska, 17:37:40)
  * Aspire One is the best-selling netbook line  (jlaska, 17:37:52)
  * AGREED: keep 533746 on the F13Beta list, pending feedback from
    kernel experts  (jlaska, 17:38:35)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559290  (jlaska, 17:39:14)
  * agk has a fc14 build available for test (lvm2-2_02_62-1_fc14)
    (jlaska, 17:42:25)
  * updated bug requesting fc13 build so that rel-eng + QA can test
    using a install image  (jlaska, 17:44:19)
  * AGREED: Keep 559290 on F13Beta pending test results against new lvm2
    build  (jlaska, 17:45:29)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572215  (jlaska, 17:45:48)
  * ACTION: jlaska to continue investigating problem, will need guidance
    from virt folks  (jlaska, 17:51:44)
  * AGREED: Keep 572215 on the list, and revisit next week.  If only
    impacts RATS environment, may consider dropping from F13Beta.
    (jlaska, 17:52:09)

* Open discussion  (jlaska, 17:52:18)
  * AGREED: Move 570302 from F13Blocker to F13Beta  (jlaska, 17:57:38)
  * adamw added F13 virt host+virt guest to
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (jlaska, 18:06:34)
  * ACTION: jlaska will follow-up with jforbes for thoughts on F13 virt
    guest+host as a Beta or Final criteria  (jlaska, 18:07:23)

Meeting ended at 18:09:41 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* jlaska to summarize F13Beta blocker discussion in 565848 report for
  dlehman
* jlaska to retest and update bug
* jlaska confirmed this is fixed, will make appropriate changes in
  bugzilla
* fix available in branched/13 awaiting confirmation
* Keep 569377 on the F13Beta list for 1 more week.  If no additional
  reports surface, consider removing from F13Beta (or closing)
* Oxf13 will deliver split media with RATS image builds
* jlaska to retest split media on same hardware that originally reported
  the issue
* Remove 572489 from F13Beta, continue discussion around user experience
  in bug
* Set relnotes? for 572489
* adamw updating 567346 to reflect latest test results
* mclasen and hughsie to discuss issue next week
* jlaska to continue investigating problem, will need guidance from virt
  folks
* jlaska will follow-up with jforbes for thoughts on F13 virt guest+host
  as a Beta or Final criteria




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
  * adamw updating 567346 to reflect latest test results
* dlehman
  * jlaska to summarize F13Beta blocker discussion in 565848 report for
    dlehman
* jlaska
  * jlaska to summarize F13Beta blocker discussion in 565848 report for
    dlehman
  * jlaska to retest and update bug
  * jlaska confirmed this is fixed, will make appropriate changes in
    bugzilla
  * jlaska to retest split media on same hardware that originally
    reported the issue
  * jlaska to continue investigating problem, will need guidance from
    virt folks
  * jlaska will follow-up with jforbes for thoughts on F13 virt
    guest+host as a Beta or Final criteria
* mclasen
  * mclasen and hughsie to discuss issue next week
* Oxf13
  * Oxf13 will deliver split media with RATS image builds
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * fix available in branched/13 awaiting confirmation
  * Keep 569377 on the F13Beta list for 1 more week.  If no additional
    reports surface, consider removing from F13Beta (or closing)
  * Remove 572489 from F13Beta, continue discussion around user
    experience in bug
  * Set relnotes? for 572489




People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* jlaska (276)
* adamw (111)
* Oxf13 (71)
* clumens (46)
* buggbot (16)
* mclasen (16)
* dcbw (15)
* zodbot (4)
* dlehman (4)
* pjones (1)




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