> There are nearly no facts, so everyone is just > guessing and many people are just ignoring objections. That is true, indeed. But do we really need detailed statistics to make a good decision? All of us have an experience with Fedora over the last years. And I *guess* ( :-) ) most or even all of them are quit happy with it otherwise they would have left over time (a guess, not hard statistics). Therefore, the Fedora project does it basically right! There is room for improvement, of course, but is's fine tuning, not a decision dead or alive (as the style of discussion of some participant might suggest). All participants should keep that fact in mind! And instead having 2 groups striving against each other we could concentrate on *solutions* to make *both* happy (both groups are obviously "relevant", by number and/or by constribution and engagement). That would be a professional and constructive way to deal with the situation. Several proposals have been made. Peter -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel