On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:47:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: > On 03/10/2010 02:47 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > On purpose. I didn't have any comments on them. > > > > I assume then you don't have any criticism of the proposal since you can > just assume the second part as a pointer to > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_guidelines Well, with regard to your "critical path packages" draft, "no criticism" would be an exaggeration. I would prefer to see something in action first. Proof of concept. A demonstration of how it improves update quality. Everything could end up as a farce due to lack of volunteers and/or lack of expertise. No diligent testing done by humans, but just automated or semi-automated tests done with tools. Or cursory "works for me" blanket approval of updates, quickly submitted with a script to process a tiresome queue of updates. With nobody taking responsibility for (1) the first annoying problem that will slip through the cracks / (2) the first regression that will be signed off nevertheless with excuses. Other than that, I welcome top-down approaches. They are a much better basis for discussion than those intimidating low-level proposals, where various variables are inserted already and just wait to be filled in (such as N weeks, N days, N karma points). I'd like to see a rationale which mentions - the technical constraints (if any), which require an update to sit in updates-testing for a minimum time, e.g. so special tools can examine updates-testing, if they can not hook up in the process earlier, - the resource constraints, which require an update to sit in updates-testing for a minimum time, e.g. so N monkeys get enough time to hammer on the queue actually, considering the mirror delivery time, considering the time it may take to test something painstakingly on a daily basis, - the strategical/political constraints, e.g. the analysis of whether what we deliver is what we intend to deliver, a precise summary of whether and where Fedora Updates have failed in a way that requires policy changes [and confinement] for all/many updates. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel