On Tuesday 09 March 2010 15:57:05 Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 08:51 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > > We get the users we aim for. > > Not really true. We don't aim at all, and we only get the users that can > bear to stay with us... > > > Here's the camps I see: > > > > 1. One group wants us to aim for mom/pop/grandma/desktop users - the > > apple market or what ubuntu aims for. > > > > 2. one group wants us to aim exclusively for the bleeding edge open > > source developer market. > > > > 3. one group wants us to aim for the admin/experienced user who wants > > newer things but doesn't have time nor interest to fight with lots of > > broken things. > > That is one way to phrase it. But really, the first is not just a > 'marked', it is everybody. Who wouldn't want a system that works without > much of a hassle and lets me do what I want to do without requiring > constant attention to breakage and changes ? What about people for which missing features (or not working hw) prevents them from doing their work? I don't understand why we just can't find suitable compromise? Some people are on one side of barricade, another on other, I feel little uncomfortable in between :D Jaroslav > And if you don't have anything to offer to the first group, the second > group is going to loose interest too. Why would somebody want to develop > software on a system that has no users ? If the users are all using > other OSes, then it only makes sense to develop the software on those > OSes. I cannot imagine anybody wanting to develop apps on or for Fedora > in its current state. -- Jaroslav Řezník <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel